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rovr322Voice #4

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News & Politics

Was it wrong to hold immigrants in outdoor metal cages at Florida's 'Alligator Alcatraz' detention site?

I think the question is deceiving. First of all no “immigrants” were there…..”illegal immigrants” were, a distinction conveniently ignored in order to beautify illegals while demonizing law enforcement officers. Secondly, while there were indeed outdoor pens, they were not the permanent residency for prisoners, but rather temporary holding areas to be used to hold someone for a period of a few hours. To those who would still consider this cruel and unusual punishment, I would have to ask where were you during Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s tenure in Maricopa County, Arizona? He kept county prisoners in outdoor open walled tents for years under both republican and democratic administrations and was never shut down. It seems like this is more about getting Trump again than morality. Remember the ICE “Trump Cages” that illegal immigrant kids were likewise forced to endure? That story died very quickly when it was disclosed that the cages were actually from Obama’s tenure.

Sep 16👍 0👎 1Open thread →
Tech & Science

Would you support a new data center in your community?

We already have one and it adversely affects our water supply. Now they want to put in another one…..and just like that “We the people” has become “We the Technocrats”

Sep 16👍 1👎 0Best receivedOpen thread →
Just for Fun

If you could afford a private jet, would you get one?

It doesn’t even have to be a jet…..I’d be happy as just another geek wobbler in a Cherokee 180 at this point

Sep 16👍 1👎 0Open thread →
Just for Fun

Do you believe in ghosts?

Science assumes that our human senses are adequate for detecting all that there is to detect in the universe around us, an entirely unprovable belief. I personally have no problem believing there are things happening around us all the time that our limited senses simply aren’t designed to detect. Also, I grew up in a very old part of the world where anyone who didn’t believe in ghosts was considered nuts, since there was always a place nearby you could go to and get firsthand experiences with them……and almost always get “more then you bargained for”

Sep 14👍 1👎 03 repliesOpen thread →
Replying to dagman: “Absence of evidence doesn't necessarily mean evidence of absence. I'm okay with that, but if I were a betting man...

Yep, but when it comes to the afterlife, ultimately we’re all betting men

Sep 16👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Should the U.S. spend more or less on foreign aid to other countries?

Somebody once defined foreign aid as taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries. Let’s take care of our own first, then by all means look at the rest of the world

Sep 14👍 1👎 0Open thread →
Just for Fun

Which breakfast meat is better — bacon or sausage?

Black pudding!

Sep 12👍 0👎 02 repliesOpen thread →
Replying to dagman: “Sorry, I mentally can't do black pudding.

The key is to eat it for 5 years before somebody actually tells you what’s in it, then you’ll be fine

Sep 12👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Trump has proposed a $5,000 payment to every American adult if Republicans keep control of both the House and Senate in November. Would you support these payments?

Protecting us from socialism……by taking money from the earners and redistributing it to the masses. No words for this one

Sep 12👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Should the death penalty be abolished in the United States?

I’m afraid I have to disagree with just about everything I’ve read in the comments, with the caveat that there can be absolutely no doubt as to the persons guilt. My main reason is that, at best, this perspective ignores the value of the victim while valuing the perp. Even worse, with talk of redeeming the perp, we reduce the victim to the level of a stage prop to be used and discarded in the murderer’s process of “redemption” that we assume they actually want. It seems society’s message should be that life is so precious that a taker of it is immediately dealt with severely and permanently.

Aug 31👍 0👎 02 repliesOpen thread →
Replying to dagman: “Can't it be both, though? Leaving room for redemption and incomplete evidence while providing justice for the victim? I guess if the death p

I don’t think it can be both without undermining the value of the victim’s life

Sep 1👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Life & Human Nature

EV or Gas Guzzler?

Eight cylinders with a manual tranny driving the rear wheels……and a big cup-holder!

Aug 31👍 1👎 0Open thread →
Tech & Science

Which will change everyday life more over the next decade — AI or robotics?

In ten years it’ll all be well past fully integrated, just hope we’re all still here

Aug 31👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Should the U.S. stop switching clocks twice a year and keep one time year-round?

Here in AZ they don’t switch, and it is so much nicer.

Aug 31👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Was the U.S. right to go to war with Iran?

Years before Hitler came to power, he wrote about getting rid of the jews. Then he did. We’ve had Iran chanting “Death to America” for forty seven years, They’re refining uranium to weapon’s grade and developing delivery systems. If we didn’t attack them they would very soon have been able to back up their words with actions, so I think the US’s actions are appropriate

Aug 29👍 1👎 02 repliesOpen thread →
Replying to dagman: “Agree, though it would be good if Trump were more clear on that objective. He eventually got there, but the path was a wandering one.

Yep, I think much of the time Trump fails to explain the important details, or capitalize on the opportunity ongoing developments in the operations against Iran give him to coherently give us perspective on the situation

Aug 30👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

How confident are you that this November's U.S. midterm elections will be counted fairly and accurately?

I live in a very pro-Trump area. In the 2020 presidential, wouldn’t you know it, they gave us the wrong kind of pen to fill out the ballot with, but no worries…they had a way to fix it. That way involved disqualifying all our votes, and it seems it occurred in all the “Trump” areas of town. In the 2022 midterms, wouldn’t you know it, the print on the ballots was for a 19 inch wide ballot whereas the ballot itself was 20 inches wide, again this only happened in “certain” locations. I’m not sure which party I hate more: the one that is openly honest with their treasonous anti-America stance or the one that’s almost as bad but pretends to be patriotic, but I do know that it wasn’t the Republicans that cheated here in Phoenix.

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Will U.S. economic pressure force Iran to change its policies?

They are utterly ruined yet trying to bluff their way still. They have no Air Force, no major naval ships, no effective command/control, and they don’t appear to even have their drone capability anymore. As for their mining of the Hormuz straight: the US Navy has removed a total of 200 mines from the strait….of those 200, only 11 were actual mines….the others were garbage bags inflated with air.. Now there’s no money to pay the army and protests are starting up again…..they’re 1945 Nazi Germany without a Marshall Plan.

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Should the Department of Homeland Security be allowed to send undercover agents to community and church meetings to gather information?

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Wasn’t Biden the guy that sicked the FBI on catholic church services and pta meetings? And got people (me) fired for not taking an experimental gene therapy they deliberately miscalled a vaccine?

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
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Amen! It’s like “Would you rather be punched in your right eye or your left”

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Business & Money

How worried are you that AI could take over part of your own job within the next year?

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Ouch! I hope at least the pay is good.

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Who is more to blame for the U.S.–Canada trade war?

Tariffs have been a one way street for decades with Canada and now the US is the bad guy for hitting them back? They sell their Bombardier biz jets here but won’t certify US Gulfstream planes to be sold in Canada? They have tariffs in the range of 100 to 400% on US agricultural products and metals and get in a tiff when we counter? And this time around they leave the negotiating table because the US will no longer let them screw us by helping China get around US metal tariffs by becoming a transshipment point and relabeling the Chinese metal as Canadian and selling it to us? I grew up in Detroit and spent many a weekend night over in Windsor, Ontario…..I found that Canadians have the worst “ugly sister” complex the world has ever seen…..they can’t stand the US because it’s better, they need it, but they’ll never admit it. Just look at how they react to Trump messing with them with the Lake America & Alberta 51st state:yelling and stomping like a 5 year old whose mommy said “no”.

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Just for Fun

Is a quesadilla a type of sandwich?

It is one of God’s greatest gifts to man!

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Sports

With about a month left in the MLB regular season, will your favorite team make the playoffs?

Tigers tanking again

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Business & Money

What should the Federal Reserve focus on right now — fighting inflation or supporting jobs and growth?

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I think their job has more to do with the welfare of their major “old money families” shareholders, which does not necessarily align with the general welfare of all of us “common herd folks

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Tech & Science

Would you get a tiny chip implanted in your hand to replace your keys, cards, and passwords?

Written 2000 years ago in the book of Revelation about the antichrist: “And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.” Enough said

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Just for Fun

Which potato do you like best — mashed, fried, or baked?

Anything but scalloped!

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Tech & Science

Would you support building a new nuclear power plant near your community to help power AI data centers?

All for nuclear power, but they put in an AI data center near us without any public opportunities to have a say. Now we have water problems and the plumbing sounds like somebody’s dragging a badger over a cheese grater. Good thing water isn’t an issue here in the middle of the desert where the temperature drops to 95 at night!

Aug 29👍 1👎 0Open thread →
News & Politics

Now that Lake Ontario has been officially renamed 'Lake America,' what will you call it?

I think its completely stupid and frigging love how easy it is for Trump to drive Canadians bat $hit crazy…..they’ll be soiling themselves for another month before one of them figures out they can do the same thing to Lake Huron

Aug 29👍 0👎 0Open thread →
Business & Money

Would you rather receive $1 million right now or $5,000 every month for the rest of your life?

Now that I think about it, I’d settle for either!

Aug 29👍 1👎 01 replyOpen thread →

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