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Should U.S. presidential candidates be required to have previously held public office?

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Douglas_GilliganSep 9, 12:55 AM

If there were to be requirements, I would make them requirements of disclosure, such as a verified public medical exam, not just from a personal doctor who is required to maintain patient privacy, which means they are compelled to lie if the patient demands it. Should include mental / personality / cognitive disorders. Should be updated yearly. The IRS should be compelled to release prior ten years of tax returns, updated yearly. FBI should be required to do a Security Clearance on each candidate in the primaries and general election, updated yearly. FBI should do a full audit of each president and Vice President, updated monthly, with release to the leaders of each party in both houses of congress in an effort to identify and prevent corruption.

dagmanVoice #1Sep 9, 3:08 PM

I agree to a point. I think the push into mental/personality/cognitive disorders has the potential to get highly politicized.

Douglas_GilliganSep 9, 3:49 PM↩ replying to dagman

Only because of Trump, and at the point when this becomes law, he will be history. My understanding of the diagnostic process is that it produces fairly consistent results, regardless of who administers the tests.

dagmanVoice #1Sep 13, 5:20 AM↩ replying to Douglas_Gilligan

I'm reluctant to say "only because of Trump". He was elected twice -- and after a Trump-inspired insurrection. I'm not 100% confident we wouldn't make equally bad decisions in the future. The last 10 years have really undermined my confidence in our collective wisdom.

Douglas_GilliganSep 13, 4:47 PM↩ replying to dagman

Agreed. Most voters vote emotionally. It is through pain that they change. Upon Trump's second term, I knew it had to get worse before it could get better. The worse it gets, the more significant the change can be for the better. My point on the politization of the tests is that once Trump is out of power, there will be motivation to create the tests, and Republicans will point at Biden, while we point at Trump, and once the tests are in place, it will be harder to claim they are political.

dagmanVoice #1Sep 15, 12:47 AM↩ replying to Douglas_Gilligan

I do hope you're right. I hope there's a collective sigh of relief when the chaos recedes and we return to something more normal. My fear is that we align to a new normal.

Douglas_GilliganSep 15, 2:27 AM↩ replying to dagman

I agree. We should not seek a 'normal'. We shouldseek CHANGE to correct a vdery broken system. It is like any 'arms race', like cons and hacking computers etc... There will always be "Black hats' trying to cheat or break the system. But that just means we need to make it as hard on them as possible. LOTS of things to do, , and the first step is to admit you have a problem, and then have the will to make the hard choices and fight for a complete answer. For instance we had a number fo safeguards, like the courts, so they corrupted the courts, especially SCOTUS. The current system is inherently corruptible, so we need to not just kludge a fix (by only adding more seats), we need to change the system: For instance, remove all judges who are obviously corrupted by bribes, and also judges with overt bias (making different choices depending on which side is contesting). Read the constitution for how to remove a judge (hint; first paragraph in article 3) for lacking "Good behaviour".

Douglas_GilliganSep 15, 2:29 AM↩ replying to Douglas_Gilligan

Haven't found the edit option yet. Also obviously LOTS more to the process of fixing all the parts of the system that have been deliberately broken.

dagmanVoice #1Sep 9, 12:05 AM

Hopefully they do, but really up to the voters to decide. I'm reluctant to put constraints on people's right to choose.

Groundbeat deskOfficialSep 8, 10:17 PM

Outsiders like Trump or Carson skip the resume entirely and voters eat it up. If you're voting "yes," what's the cutoff, one term as dogcatcher enough?

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